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Project Persephone is an [[education | educational]], [[research]] and [[charity | charitable]] [[NGO]]. We recognize that space exploitation must be pursued
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Project Persephone is an [[education | educational]], [[research]] and [[charity | charitable]] [[NGO]]. We recognize that space development must be pursued
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* promote [[sustainability | sustainable development]] in [[equatorial alpine regions]], especially in areas that might someday host [[projectile space launch]].
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* promote [[sustainability | sustainable development]] in [[equatorial mountain regions]], especially in areas that might someday host [[projectile space launch]].
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'''A space program for the rest of us.'''

!!! What we want to do

* Give more space access to anybody who wants some
* Get more people wanting more space by making space [[ ludotopian|more fun]]
* Make our world a little healthier, wealthier, and - if possible - wiser in the process.

All without sending anybody to space - at least for now.

It's a [[CATS | tall order]].  It raises [[Project Persephone FAQ|difficult questions]]. We'll need [[some people]].  Maybe you.

!!! What we do

* plan missions to put small satellites into low equatorial orbits for [[landslides | disaster warning]], [[environmental monitoring]] and emergency communications
* prototype [[exovivaria]] - closed ecosystems inside satellites, to be maintained from Earth [[telebots | telebotically]], and democratically governed by a global commmunity.
* promote [[sustainability | sustainable development]] in [[equatorial alpine regions]], especially in areas that might someday host [[projectile space launch]].
* study [[market mechanisms]] for optimizing all our activities.


!!! Space for fun - but only to SPEC

Project Persephone is an [[education | educational]], [[research]] and [[charity | charitable]] [[NGO]]. We recognize that space exploitation must be pursued

* '''S'''eriously - educating people in the process
* '''P'''eacefully - avoiding (ideally even countering) [[arms proliferation]]
* '''E'''quitably - improving developing-world [[prosperity]]
* '''C'''leanly - not degrading (and ideally promoting) environmental [[sustainability]]

We call this: "[[Meeting the SPEC]]".

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February 21, 2013, at 10:57 PM by vsaqoqjti - BIDFntAwT
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The only thing i really liked was that erstoe shower. I remeber when i was deluxe and i had erstoe. But it really isn't fair that its not free for some people. Ah, yes then i found out my webkinz account expired, then i didn't go on webkinz again until the expired accounts were no longer expired( ah, the memories lol  ).
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February 21, 2013, at 04:48 PM by Seema - cDfIPOKoE
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Great. Now the possiblilty of the Cerberus System, a.k.a. Cloud Monster being a ntniae cloud is back in the air.If the producers dismissed it, why is it being thrown back out there?
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The only thing i really liked was that erstoe shower. I remeber when i was deluxe and i had erstoe. But it really isn't fair that its not free for some people. Ah, yes then i found out my webkinz account expired, then i didn't go on webkinz again until the expired accounts were no longer expired( ah, the memories lol  ).
February 21, 2013, at 03:28 PM by Lyudmila - iqabNGRvRvqDHDHuHPx
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Great. Now the possiblilty of the Cerberus System, a.k.a. Cloud Monster being a ntniae cloud is back in the air.If the producers dismissed it, why is it being thrown back out there?
February 21, 2013, at 10:35 AM by ueywzmjxy - DCpcMsllSClDydIaOt
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This sounds like a nice, light read  I aylwas like to have a stack of those around, because sometimes I just really need something like that, that takes me to a lighter, entertaining world. I just checked and my library doesn't have any of her books. I think I'll put one on my Bookmooch wish list!
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February 21, 2013, at 08:38 AM by Spukky - NizjZrbdrFjPZeCKP
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This sounds like a nice, light read  I aylwas like to have a stack of those around, because sometimes I just really need something like that, that takes me to a lighter, entertaining world. I just checked and my library doesn't have any of her books. I think I'll put one on my Bookmooch wish list!
February 21, 2013, at 08:17 AM by mnloozfvz - NfclPOvIcveAf
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This is just the preefct answer for all of us
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February 21, 2013, at 07:18 AM by Eudson - yMJFjayxhMvYByAF
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If you liked The Nutmeg Tree, you will like Margery Sharp's  Cluny Brown  and  Brittania Mews,  (both made into movies) and pphares the Martha Books.  My favorite is  Something Light. I also like D.E. Stevenson's books very much (I have collected all of them, which was not easy), Nancy Mitford, and Angela Thirkell.  I often wonder what those ladies thought of each other and try to imagine them together at a tea party.
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This is just the preefct answer for all of us
February 21, 2013, at 03:46 AM by Bibigul - EnHbKCoegvJjsfYpS
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It's always a relief when someone with obvious expertise answres. Thanks!
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If you liked The Nutmeg Tree, you will like Margery Sharp's  Cluny Brown  and  Brittania Mews,  (both made into movies) and pphares the Martha Books.  My favorite is  Something Light. I also like D.E. Stevenson's books very much (I have collected all of them, which was not easy), Nancy Mitford, and Angela Thirkell.  I often wonder what those ladies thought of each other and try to imagine them together at a tea party.
February 21, 2013, at 02:36 AM by Wednesday - ptJDJfOMRNTRvGkL
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Weirdness  I suggest not using any email for say, work . some folks on other barods are having their email systems have major problems after receiving the newsletter email. But it definitely provides what could in the future be a good clue.Speaker has confirmed this is a valid site.
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It's always a relief when someone with obvious expertise answres. Thanks!
February 21, 2013, at 02:07 AM by Dgvfd - rHvBJJzq
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yeah skess, that website also comes up if you spell rervreteis as retEIvers, so its retreiversoftruth.comthat means there are 2 ways to get to that website.  I have been there before through the actual LOST website (not under that url) and I am sure it is genuine.  they must just have done that on purpose?
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Weirdness  I suggest not using any email for say, work . some folks on other barods are having their email systems have major problems after receiving the newsletter email. But it definitely provides what could in the future be a good clue.Speaker has confirmed this is a valid site.
February 21, 2013, at 12:10 AM by Mike - xBoEjyJdJRceG
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Mahmoud AhmedDear sir/madamGod day I want to ask about the rates (Egyptian) for Luxor to Aswan Nile cruise csnrideoing.•4 stars or 5 stars standard room ship•4 nights / 5days cruise length.•2 adults and 1 infant in one room.•Sailing dates (16/17/18 Nov. 2011) please give me rates for all possible as I didn’t finalize the exact date for sailing.RegardsMahmoud
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yeah skess, that website also comes up if you spell rervreteis as retEIvers, so its retreiversoftruth.comthat means there are 2 ways to get to that website.  I have been there before through the actual LOST website (not under that url) and I am sure it is genuine.  they must just have done that on purpose?
February 20, 2013, at 10:14 PM by Jorge - lXbxgtUbiculFkwBlj
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Dom-Great catch, I didn't remember Brian's last name. After seieng the Michael flashbacks in last night's rerun, I was wondering the same thing about the moves  New York, Amsterdam, Rome  I was thinking she worked as a lawyer for some part of the company.Parthenogenesis- the process is a form of natural cloning. In April 2004, scientists at Tokyo University of Agriculture used parthenogenesis to successfully create fatherless mice.
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Mahmoud AhmedDear sir/madamGod day I want to ask about the rates (Egyptian) for Luxor to Aswan Nile cruise csnrideoing.•4 stars or 5 stars standard room ship•4 nights / 5days cruise length.•2 adults and 1 infant in one room.•Sailing dates (16/17/18 Nov. 2011) please give me rates for all possible as I didn’t finalize the exact date for sailing.RegardsMahmoud
February 20, 2013, at 09:14 PM by Don - qqwMjsnkCBHOqtrLoDE
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[quote comment="3646"]Thanks, Cecilia.  It seems prtety obvious now  the EMRI page is kinda sparse.  Good for your friend for getting his site mentioned in the webmaze![/quote]dont know if anyones interested but if you click on the alvar photo a letter appears. then if you go to life extension page there is another letter, at the bottom of this page there is a link which takes you to a submit box, havent figured what to put in it yet!
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Dom-Great catch, I didn't remember Brian's last name. After seieng the Michael flashbacks in last night's rerun, I was wondering the same thing about the moves  New York, Amsterdam, Rome  I was thinking she worked as a lawyer for some part of the company.Parthenogenesis- the process is a form of natural cloning. In April 2004, scientists at Tokyo University of Agriculture used parthenogenesis to successfully create fatherless mice.
February 20, 2013, at 08:28 PM by Priyanka - vIILryglUleN
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I don't think I will get around to it bferoe the end of the year. I am currently hiding myself from the real world in Jane Austen fic, instead of picking up books that deserve a lot more thought. Now that you mention it, I forgot to take a picture of the wrapped present as well! Oh well, a picture of the unwrapped presents is nice too, right?
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[quote comment="3646"]Thanks, Cecilia.  It seems prtety obvious now  the EMRI page is kinda sparse.  Good for your friend for getting his site mentioned in the webmaze![/quote]dont know if anyones interested but if you click on the alvar photo a letter appears. then if you go to life extension page there is another letter, at the bottom of this page there is a link which takes you to a submit box, havent figured what to put in it yet!
February 20, 2013, at 08:18 PM by Shobanasahithi - BMTPnBycuigGHwR
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Julie:  This is a bit confusing to epilaxn, but the EMRI page is actually a fan site, not an official site.  I actually know the guy who runs it, his homepage is on perception.net.  I don't think the link being in there is an official endorsement of it as being part of the webmaze, but rather just a joke that the Verizon guys are  on the same level  as the rest of us ordinary webmazers.  Similarly, the Andy UK link is a real site  and DJ Dan's last YouTube podcast had a screencapture of lostpedia's page, which is also a fan-run site.
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I don't think I will get around to it bferoe the end of the year. I am currently hiding myself from the real world in Jane Austen fic, instead of picking up books that deserve a lot more thought. Now that you mention it, I forgot to take a picture of the wrapped present as well! Oh well, a picture of the unwrapped presents is nice too, right?
February 20, 2013, at 07:09 PM by Mariana - oHpJZVRhCNrfTnpq
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Julie:  This is a bit confusing to epilaxn, but the EMRI page is actually a fan site, not an official site.  I actually know the guy who runs it, his homepage is on perception.net.  I don't think the link being in there is an official endorsement of it as being part of the webmaze, but rather just a joke that the Verizon guys are  on the same level  as the rest of us ordinary webmazers.  Similarly, the Andy UK link is a real site  and DJ Dan's last YouTube podcast had a screencapture of lostpedia's page, which is also a fan-run site.
February 20, 2013, at 02:29 PM by Vananh - IGQDbCEcQgXHFDyQ
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The problem moinneted with email was that their email system shut down  I don't know if its rumor, I suppose it is in the same way that anything posted on a forum could just be rumor. But at least 2 people moinneted that their email shut down, imploded, etc. and they had to spend time fixing it.  I don't know if its related, but I put in my AOL address knowing that I have good security and virus protection, I entered it 3 times separately (like several minutes apart, etc.) and did not get one email.  I got one on another account with, well, lets say its my email address I dont read because of all the spam  and it came through fine.
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February 20, 2013, at 12:47 PM by Mykhaylo - njAAWBUCokeEgWEE
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1  0Thats really silly, think about it, the sun can't orbit all the plntaes one after the other beacause An  orbit' is the route one body follows around another body. Like the Earth follows a specific path (..'orbit'..) around the Sun  Mercury follows a specific path (..'orbit..) around the Sun as does the rest of the plntaes. Therfore the Sun cannot be following a specific path (..'orbit'..) around the Earth simply due to the other plntaes that follow those specific paths or orbits around the Sun itself. Concurrently we can see that the whole solar system i.e. the Sun, the plntaes and asteroids etc contained in the gravatational sphere of the sun is following a specific path or orbit around our Galaxy like many other stars that have solar systems do. its that simple.
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The problem moinneted with email was that their email system shut down  I don't know if its rumor, I suppose it is in the same way that anything posted on a forum could just be rumor. But at least 2 people moinneted that their email shut down, imploded, etc. and they had to spend time fixing it.  I don't know if its related, but I put in my AOL address knowing that I have good security and virus protection, I entered it 3 times separately (like several minutes apart, etc.) and did not get one email.  I got one on another account with, well, lets say its my email address I dont read because of all the spam  and it came through fine.
February 20, 2013, at 11:54 AM by Roman - ggPbWToTuDkEdTL
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dear kunnu jii've just completed MCA and i have expneirece in foxpro an PHP(6M). please suggest me the right way whether i should go for php or .net/java.i am very much interest in s/w developement. is there any good institute in delhi for scjp adv. java course.your kasimsim786@webdunia.com
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1  0Thats really silly, think about it, the sun can't orbit all the plntaes one after the other beacause An  orbit' is the route one body follows around another body. Like the Earth follows a specific path (..'orbit'..) around the Sun  Mercury follows a specific path (..'orbit..) around the Sun as does the rest of the plntaes. Therfore the Sun cannot be following a specific path (..'orbit'..) around the Earth simply due to the other plntaes that follow those specific paths or orbits around the Sun itself. Concurrently we can see that the whole solar system i.e. the Sun, the plntaes and asteroids etc contained in the gravatational sphere of the sun is following a specific path or orbit around our Galaxy like many other stars that have solar systems do. its that simple.
February 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM by Pepedes - UQrLPVWF
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說道:謝謝ricker 大的回覆,而後台一直存不了變數,直接到msyql 去執行結果出現這樣的錯誤訊息UPDATE `hung_blog`.`wp_options` SET `option_value` =  a:14:{s:5:\"count\";i:0;s:13:\"check_reflash\";i:0;s:7:\"timeout\";i:0;s:12:\"display_home\";i:0;s:14:\"display_single\";i:0;s:12:\"display_page\";i:0;s:15:\"display_archive\";i:0;s:14:\"display_search\";i:0;s:13:\"display_other\";i:0;s:8:\"template\";s:9:\"人氣%VIEW_COUNT%\";s:13:\"user_template\";s:9:\"人氣%VIEW_COUNT%\";s:12:\"bot_template\";s:9:\"蜘蛛%VIEW_COUNT%\";s:20:\"most_viewed_template\";s:0:\"\";s:8:\"botagent\";a:2:{i:0;s:6:\"\";i:1;s:216:\"Warning: implode() []: Invalid agemurnts passed in /home/hung/public_html/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-postviews-plus/admin.php on line 218\";}}\' WHERE `wp_options`.`option_id` =13127;我未變動過admin.php 這檔案,不知道問題出在哪呢?
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dear kunnu jii've just completed MCA and i have expneirece in foxpro an PHP(6M). please suggest me the right way whether i should go for php or .net/java.i am very much interest in s/w developement. is there any good institute in delhi for scjp adv. java course.your kasimsim786@webdunia.com
February 20, 2013, at 10:26 AM by Vicki - yJbHEkbuz
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說道:謝謝ricker 大的回覆,而後台一直存不了變數,直接到msyql 去執行結果出現這樣的錯誤訊息UPDATE `hung_blog`.`wp_options` SET `option_value` =  a:14:{s:5:\"count\";i:0;s:13:\"check_reflash\";i:0;s:7:\"timeout\";i:0;s:12:\"display_home\";i:0;s:14:\"display_single\";i:0;s:12:\"display_page\";i:0;s:15:\"display_archive\";i:0;s:14:\"display_search\";i:0;s:13:\"display_other\";i:0;s:8:\"template\";s:9:\"人氣%VIEW_COUNT%\";s:13:\"user_template\";s:9:\"人氣%VIEW_COUNT%\";s:12:\"bot_template\";s:9:\"蜘蛛%VIEW_COUNT%\";s:20:\"most_viewed_template\";s:0:\"\";s:8:\"botagent\";a:2:{i:0;s:6:\"\";i:1;s:216:\"Warning: implode() []: Invalid agemurnts passed in /home/hung/public_html/blog/wp-content/plugins/wp-postviews-plus/admin.php on line 218\";}}\' WHERE `wp_options`.`option_id` =13127;我未變動過admin.php 這檔案,不知道問題出在哪呢?
February 20, 2013, at 08:39 AM by seftibiapa - lNfjKsDMczZCzeqdpB
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Leann:  Could you give us more details on  major preolbms after receiving the newsletter email  like what the preolbms are?  I noticed someone mentioned this on lostpedia as well, but I've had no issues (but I also always use dummy email accounts for this sort of stuff).  I'm wondering how much this is just a rumor (one I've been hearing as well, but it'd be helpful to know specifics.To keep people from needing to enter their emails for this, I will cut and paste the message that is sent to you:First let's start this by saying,  thank you. There's a word into which dreams can come true. This email is yourgateway to that word and more that will open your mind and yourconsciousness.Imagine a field  a field of yellow  yellow labs running free,playful, and enjoying each other's company. But in their hearts theyare not complete. They miss an integral part of their being and thething that makes their existence complete. That one thing is the  word for which we all search  mankind and labkind.But first a story.I was checking into a hotel and a dapper porter escorts me to my room.As we're going up the elevator in total silence I decide to ask himhis name. He replies,  Mandrake Wig  and immediately starts to explainthe odd name, his German ancestry, and his mother's preoccupation withbotany. He ends the story by saying,  my friends just call me Manny. We continue talking about our lives, hopes, and dreams as I'm gettingsettled in my room. When he's done I offer a generous tip but herefuses saying,  Let me give you a tip, a single word that will enrichyour life, as it has mine.  I accept.The next day I go to the front desk to leave a tip for Manny. They tellme no such person works there. I question everyone with no luck. Ithink about what he told me and write down his name so I don't forgetit. As I write I see something in the letters. I rearrange a few andcreate the words,  waking dream. The word he gave me that day was  YOU.Yours truly, Dr. Vincent  Wally  Bole
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February 20, 2013, at 07:25 AM by Alena - NoncJHDPuWg
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Hey, subtle must be your mdilde name. Great post!
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Leann:  Could you give us more details on  major preolbms after receiving the newsletter email  like what the preolbms are?  I noticed someone mentioned this on lostpedia as well, but I've had no issues (but I also always use dummy email accounts for this sort of stuff).  I'm wondering how much this is just a rumor (one I've been hearing as well, but it'd be helpful to know specifics.To keep people from needing to enter their emails for this, I will cut and paste the message that is sent to you:First let's start this by saying,  thank you. There's a word into which dreams can come true. This email is yourgateway to that word and more that will open your mind and yourconsciousness.Imagine a field  a field of yellow  yellow labs running free,playful, and enjoying each other's company. But in their hearts theyare not complete. They miss an integral part of their being and thething that makes their existence complete. That one thing is the  word for which we all search  mankind and labkind.But first a story.I was checking into a hotel and a dapper porter escorts me to my room.As we're going up the elevator in total silence I decide to ask himhis name. He replies,  Mandrake Wig  and immediately starts to explainthe odd name, his German ancestry, and his mother's preoccupation withbotany. He ends the story by saying,  my friends just call me Manny. We continue talking about our lives, hopes, and dreams as I'm gettingsettled in my room. When he's done I offer a generous tip but herefuses saying,  Let me give you a tip, a single word that will enrichyour life, as it has mine.  I accept.The next day I go to the front desk to leave a tip for Manny. They tellme no such person works there. I question everyone with no luck. Ithink about what he told me and write down his name so I don't forgetit. As I write I see something in the letters. I rearrange a few andcreate the words,  waking dream. The word he gave me that day was  YOU.Yours truly, Dr. Vincent  Wally  Bole
February 20, 2013, at 03:23 AM by Ail - sWZkitbRFHwX
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in the New Yorker.As image-makers we try to navigate a caietrn visual / intuitive territory, and then because of caietrn requirements, we must explain the imagery via words. I think there are many artists who find this process a bit awkward, and lacking in  flow .  On the other hand, expressing ourselves on a theme can offer it's own insights, and propel us to deeper work.When I studied experimental theatre, our esteemed teacher would remind us that if we had a  good idea , to toss it aside. If we paid more attention to the chance elements, and responded instinctually, then what resulted was a fresher performance.As to the images you posted, they stand on their own.  Would their mystery be somehow diminished if they were accompanied by the  blueprints  or an artist statement?  Depends on the viewer, and a number of other factors.Ah, this is all so complex.
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Hey, subtle must be your mdilde name. Great post!
February 20, 2013, at 03:12 AM by Aidee - OegmytbzjPwaQDO
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Sorry, i had to explain more 1st : My gaarge where you visited before.2nd : My another stock yard 3rd : My friend's yard..so many 330s are there.4th : One junkyard that used to be there..they've already gone, but I saw soooo many '70s Japanese cars and I've got a lot of parts for my 230. Unfortunately they had to close the yard because of Japanese new recycle law.
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in the New Yorker.As image-makers we try to navigate a caietrn visual / intuitive territory, and then because of caietrn requirements, we must explain the imagery via words. I think there are many artists who find this process a bit awkward, and lacking in  flow .  On the other hand, expressing ourselves on a theme can offer it's own insights, and propel us to deeper work.When I studied experimental theatre, our esteemed teacher would remind us that if we had a  good idea , to toss it aside. If we paid more attention to the chance elements, and responded instinctually, then what resulted was a fresher performance.As to the images you posted, they stand on their own.  Would their mystery be somehow diminished if they were accompanied by the  blueprints  or an artist statement?  Depends on the viewer, and a number of other factors.Ah, this is all so complex.
February 20, 2013, at 02:50 AM by Alena - FJfyaHACbzwzL
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All of these atrclies have saved me a lot of headaches.
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Sorry, i had to explain more 1st : My gaarge where you visited before.2nd : My another stock yard 3rd : My friend's yard..so many 330s are there.4th : One junkyard that used to be there..they've already gone, but I saw soooo many '70s Japanese cars and I've got a lot of parts for my 230. Unfortunately they had to close the yard because of Japanese new recycle law.
February 20, 2013, at 01:37 AM by Misael - TImvayYnIOa
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I'm not easily impressed. . . but that's ipmressnig me! :)
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All of these atrclies have saved me a lot of headaches.
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You keep it up now, undesratnd? Really good to know.
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I'm not easily impressed. . . but that's ipmressnig me! :)
February 19, 2013, at 10:15 PM by Ika - lAjjvKZANsNf
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that the Sun does not orbit the Earth really doesn’t know their scicene very well.There are no fixed points in space, people decide what fixed points are. Imagine you have emptiness… a great big void… vacuum….  outerspace…. except there is a baseball and a tennis ball in that vacuum. Let’s say one or both of the balls are moving. You could say the tennis ball is stationary, and the baseball is hurtling… let’s say… 40 miles per hour away from it. However, instead, you could say it's the baseball holding still, and the tennis ball is hurtling 40 miles per hour away from it; you would still be accurate. Or, you could pick some fixed point in space between the baseball and tennis ball, and say that point is what is stationary, and that the tennis ball is going 20 miles per hour in one direction and that the tennis ball is heading the opposite direction at 20 miles an hour. Or, again, you could pick a point in space between the two balls, and say that point is stationary, but this time you could say that the baseball is traveling away from that point at 5 miles per hour, and tennis ball is travelling away from that point in the opposite direction at 35 miles per hour  You could also pick a point NOT exactly between the two balls, but rather off to side, as your stationary point, and you could say something like the baseball is traveling at 102.7 miles per hour and the tennis ball is traveling at 99.29 miles per hour. All of these descriptions are accurate representations of the exact same set-up.Imagine you have a yellow sphere and a blue sphere in space. The yellow sphere is orbiting the blue sphere. You could just as easily just shift your point of view, and say the yellow sphere is stationary, and that the blue sphere is orbiting the yellow sphere. Or if you picked a point between the two spheres, and set that as stationary, you would see the two spheres spinning around that fixed point. There is an attraction between the sun and the earth we all know as gravity. But the laws of gravity do not specify which objects are standing still and which objects are being attracted. In fact, nothing specifies which objects are standing still and which objects are moving. Standstill and movement are not absolute characteristics, they are relative.It is possible to make an accurate model of the solar system showing the solar system orbiting a stationary earth. It would be very wobbly, since the sun has so much more mass than the earth does, but it can be done.Now, historical models of everything orbiting the earth are a bunch of rubbish. They are trash. Also, I’ll mention that I am an atheist, I am not arguing against all of you for any sort of religious beliefs about the earth being the center of the solar system.It is just really bad scicene to say that the sun does not orbit the earth. Of course it does. The sun is, with 100% certainty, a satellite of the earth. The sun orbits the earth and the earth orbits the sun. And no, this isn’t some sort of weird philosophy or crap. I mean what I say very literally, not metaphorically.
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You keep it up now, undesratnd? Really good to know.
February 19, 2013, at 08:08 PM by Trailukya - gTcHRlUzuXVye
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Walking in the presence of giants here. Cool thinking all aronud!
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that the Sun does not orbit the Earth really doesn’t know their scicene very well.There are no fixed points in space, people decide what fixed points are. Imagine you have emptiness… a great big void… vacuum….  outerspace…. except there is a baseball and a tennis ball in that vacuum. Let’s say one or both of the balls are moving. You could say the tennis ball is stationary, and the baseball is hurtling… let’s say… 40 miles per hour away from it. However, instead, you could say it's the baseball holding still, and the tennis ball is hurtling 40 miles per hour away from it; you would still be accurate. Or, you could pick some fixed point in space between the baseball and tennis ball, and say that point is what is stationary, and that the tennis ball is going 20 miles per hour in one direction and that the tennis ball is heading the opposite direction at 20 miles an hour. Or, again, you could pick a point in space between the two balls, and say that point is stationary, but this time you could say that the baseball is traveling away from that point at 5 miles per hour, and tennis ball is travelling away from that point in the opposite direction at 35 miles per hour  You could also pick a point NOT exactly between the two balls, but rather off to side, as your stationary point, and you could say something like the baseball is traveling at 102.7 miles per hour and the tennis ball is traveling at 99.29 miles per hour. All of these descriptions are accurate representations of the exact same set-up.Imagine you have a yellow sphere and a blue sphere in space. The yellow sphere is orbiting the blue sphere. You could just as easily just shift your point of view, and say the yellow sphere is stationary, and that the blue sphere is orbiting the yellow sphere. Or if you picked a point between the two spheres, and set that as stationary, you would see the two spheres spinning around that fixed point. There is an attraction between the sun and the earth we all know as gravity. But the laws of gravity do not specify which objects are standing still and which objects are being attracted. In fact, nothing specifies which objects are standing still and which objects are moving. Standstill and movement are not absolute characteristics, they are relative.It is possible to make an accurate model of the solar system showing the solar system orbiting a stationary earth. It would be very wobbly, since the sun has so much more mass than the earth does, but it can be done.Now, historical models of everything orbiting the earth are a bunch of rubbish. They are trash. Also, I’ll mention that I am an atheist, I am not arguing against all of you for any sort of religious beliefs about the earth being the center of the solar system.It is just really bad scicene to say that the sun does not orbit the earth. Of course it does. The sun is, with 100% certainty, a satellite of the earth. The sun orbits the earth and the earth orbits the sun. And no, this isn’t some sort of weird philosophy or crap. I mean what I say very literally, not metaphorically.
February 19, 2013, at 04:39 PM by Nina - pJZsftDcxfCcHevabP
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'''A space program for the rest of us.'''

!!! What we want to do

* Give more space access to anybody who wants some
* Get more people wanting more space by making space [[ ludotopian|more fun]]
* Make our world a little healthier, wealthier, and - if possible - wiser in the process.

All without sending anybody to space - at least for now.

It's a [[CATS | tall order]].  It raises [[Project Persephone FAQ|difficult questions]]. We'll need [[some people]].  Maybe you.

!!! What we do

* plan missions to put small satellites into low equatorial orbits for [[landslides | disaster warning]], [[environmental monitoring]] and emergency communications
* prototype [[exovivaria]] - closed ecosystems inside satellites, to be maintained from Earth [[telebots | telebotically]], and democratically governed by a global commmunity.
* promote [[sustainability | sustainable development]] in [[equatorial alpine regions]], especially in areas that might someday host [[projectile space launch]].
* study [[market mechanisms]] for optimizing all our activities.


!!! Space for fun - but only to SPEC

Project Persephone is an [[education | educational]], [[research]] and [[charity | charitable]] [[NGO]]. We recognize that space exploitation must be pursued

* '''S'''eriously - educating people in the process
* '''P'''eacefully - avoiding (ideally even countering) [[arms proliferation]]
* '''E'''quitably - improving developing-world [[prosperity]]
* '''C'''leanly - not degrading (and ideally promoting) environmental [[sustainability]]

We call this: "[[Meeting the SPEC]]".

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Walking in the presence of giants here. Cool thinking all aronud!
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!!! What we want to do
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* plan missions to put small satellites into low equatorial orbits for [[landslides | disaster warning]], environmental monitoring and emergency communications
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* plan missions to put small satellites into low equatorial orbits for [[landslides | disaster warning]], [[environmental monitoring]] and emergency communications
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Project Persephone is an [[education | educational]], [[research]] and [[charity | charitable]] [[NGO]].  We are devoted to studying, developing and promoting new ways to expand uses of outer space that can benefit everybody.  At the same time, however, we recognize that space exploitation must be pursued
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Project Persephone is an [[education | educational]], [[research]] and [[charity | charitable]] [[NGO]]. We recognize that space exploitation must be pursued
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The Project's goals are particularly challenging in view of the trends toward a possible [[decline in launch demand]] for commercial payloads, the looming threat of space-based and space-enabled [[arms proliferation]], and a greater threat to all near-Earth uses of space from anthropogenic [[orbital debris]].

Is it possible?  We don't know.  The [[research]] arm of Project Persephone is devoted to answering that question.  We're trying to make that research as much fun as possible, too; we don't have much money, and if we can get people to do some of the research for free, because it's fun, so much the better.  But even figuring out how to do that is not easy.

But nobody said it would be easy.

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* plan missions to put small satellites into low equatorial orbits for [[landslides | disaster warning]], environmental monitoring and emergency communications
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* study [[market mechanisms]] for optimizing all our activities.

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